Women who love gay porn: addendum to my last post ...

[chicken]

That guy Bret (bret@savagelove.net) writing the article about women who love gay porn wrote me back to say he originally planned for his article to include all women, not just straight women, but Dan made him change it for the time being; I suspect he has a second article waiting in the wings. So if you are a non-straight woman who wants to answer his survey, go ahead and ping him. He prefers that people fill out his survey rather than extemporaneously covering topics in an email message.

I don't know how I feel about a gay guy studying this phenomenon rather than a woman, but hey, it could be interesting -- The Stranger is a very progressive, very alternative paper and Dan's a good guy, so my hopes are high.

Feel free to email him if you are interested in participating in the survey. I am not pimping for him, I just think more people need to realize that it isn't just straight women, but a lot of women who like gay porn, and if he gets a ton more responses from us queer women than he expected, it'll probably surprise and enlighten him. :-)

Comments

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

Hmm... And is he investigating the relationship, if any, between women liking porn-for-gay-men, and women liking slash?

I always figured on flimsy theoretical grounds that only straight women liked male-male slash, until I found out otherwise.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

...Which I should have been able to extract from the fact that lots of straight women enjoy and write femslash.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Well, he refers to both as "porn", one as "video format" and one as "prose".

Most women like male-male slash, regardless of orientation. ;-)

[samantha2074.livejournal.com]

Do most women like male-male slash, or are the women who do just really vocal about it? I'm genuinely curious since it's not a particular interest of mine, although I do read the occasional slash fic. On the other hand, it could be just me.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Well, no one knows, since there are probably no scientific studies. And you are right, I worded that badly. What I meant to say was, "there are many types of women who love slash". And there are many types of women who love femmeslash, too.

But it's a documented fact that women prefer prose porn, and men prefer visual porn.

[samantha2074.livejournal.com]

But it's a documented fact that women prefer prose porn, and men prefer visual porn.

Well, I definitely fit in with that :-).

[cadence-k.livejournal.com]

This seems really interesting. I'm a total survey whore, being a psych student, so I think I'll contact him. Thanks for the tip!

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it is pretty interesting. Of course his survey questions are really just the tip of the iceberg, there is too much to explore in one article, but still ... and he was very receptive when I emailed him asking him to change the wording from just "straight" and "lesbian" women to also include "bisexual" women. I mean, I know all these terms are mega-fraught and contentious and whatever, but it just seemed fair. And he was very eager to be inclusive. So, yeah. The survey questions were easy, only took about ten minutes to answer quickly, and another twenty to go back and be the blathering survey whore that I am, adding more stuff, more blather. ;-) Sounds like you do that, too. Or something!

[cadence-k.livejournal.com]

He wasn't going to include the term bisexual? Arg! I won't go into my rant about it, but that really irks me. Thank you for setting him straight!

Hee! Straight!

So yeah, I'm looking forward to blathering away and subtly including my political ranting in my answers. Should be lots of fun!

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

See, I think queer guys are less politicized about the term 'bisexual' than queer girls. Guys are just, "I wanna fuck somebody/something" and they just leave it at that (am I implying that guys are more shallow? why yes!). And they would probably say that we, the women, tend to over-intellectualize sometimes. That's the only explanation I can think of. Also the follow-up one which is that men tend to marginalize women even as they seek to understand them, and one way they can marginalize us is to discount some Issue that is important to us. I don't think this particular guy is doing that, but then again, the jury is out until we see his final paper.

Good pun there. It's so easy. ;-)

I used to be SO offended when people wouldn't accept my self-perceived bisexuality as a valid choice. Now that I've been in an LTR for eleven years (with another woman, my wife, pictured kissing me in the icon), I have relaxed about it to the point that I call myself a lesbian, but still go out of my way to defend other women who are friends, who are being attacked for being bisexual by some of the more dogmatic lesbians among us.

Not that I don't call faux bisexual women on their shit. You know, the kind that are really straight, and use the term 'bisexual' in such a way as to ruin it for everyone else. The thing is, the faux ones are not as common as people think, and most bisexual women truly are bisexual and that's that, and people should just deal.

I also think that in Kinsey terms, all humans are really bisexual, no one is truly truly 100% a zero or a six, and more women use the term 'bisexual' than men, because women are more willing to admit to the gray, willing to admit that most of life is a gray area in the middle of the spectrum somewhere, whereas more men are all about the black & white, they are either gay or straight and that's that.