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-- No shire battle at the end? Why not? Hobbits died, for pity's sake.

Queerish subtexty and texty bits in the books that were left out of the film, who knows why --

-- Sam says to Frodo "I love you." Why cut one little line just because it might sound gay? Come on.

-- Gimli loves Legolas so much that he boards the ship with him at the end. Tolkien used the word love, yes.

Sure, in both cases he probably didn't mean homoerotic love, but leaving these bits out of the film still makes Jackson look a bit homophobic. Esp. as he was the one who made "Heavenly Creatures" which I found to be homophobic.

But, redeemably, Merry and Pippin came off as totally in love in ROTK, which was very cute.

On the whole, however, a great film, worth the having-to-pee feeling after sitting in the theatre for four hours (counting the interminable coming attactions and product huckstering).

In fact, we liked it enough to want to go see it again next week.


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Date: 2003-12-28 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
Notwithstanding all these omissions, the movie has still managed to rekindle the "how homoerotic is The Lord of the Rings" debate for a new generation, and creep out some reviewers who don't like these implications.

I think what bothers some of them (whether or not they're complete homophobes) is that they think that any implication of slashy subtext in the books is the same thing as insisting that Tolkien consciously intended these characters to be read as sexual partners. Since he obviously didn't (he was generally very conservative about sexual morality, after all), therefore anything that might blur the bright line between homoeroticism and "homosociality" is Wrong to them, even though it's hard to avoid getting a little of this from the text.

Most likely Jackson knew that any faithful onscreen depiction of Frodo and Sam's relationship was going to bug them one way or another, so he shied away from including lines and incidents that would bother them further.

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Date: 2003-12-28 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
I think what bothers some of them (whether or not they're complete homophobes) is that they think that any implication of slashy subtext in the books is the same thing as insisting that Tolkien consciously intended these characters to be read as sexual partners.

Oh dear. People will have emotions and thoughts when reading any book that might not be what the author intended. That is one of the beauties of literature. Sheesh. These people are afraid of this very fact.

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