chicken | Thoughts and questions about Angel S1

After re-watching "Five by Five" and "Sanctuary" and thinking more about the Faith situation, I have these questions:

1.) I've got to be the first Slayer in history sponsored by a vampire.

I haven't seen seasons two or three -- does Angel ever visit Faith in prison? Does she ever get any visits or letters or help from Angel or anyone, or is this her own struggle by herself? Because clearly by the point in S4 when Wesley breaks her out, she seems to have changed a bit, and I'm wondering exactly how that happened. How does she find peace with her past and change her attitude about life?

2.) Now, post S7, does she feel she owes society and herself any more time -- does she feel the need to check herself back into prison? If not, then when some authorities happen upon her, will they try to make her go back (unsuccessfully no doubt)? Or will there be a kind of trial thingy where maybe a bunch of potentials (well now they are slayers) might testify on her behalf, like "hey, she helped us, she saved some of our lives, she's redeemed, please say she's out for good now, or at least on parole" type of thing?

3.) I kind of get the feeling Faith is a lot like Buffy (whether redeemed fully or not), insofar as both are still unbaked cookie dough. So she won't be *seriously* dating Wood or anyone else, not for a while. Does this assumption seem right?

4.) Out of nowhere, a question having nothing to do with Faith, but it has been bothering me because "Welcome To The Hellmouth/Harvest" were on FX today:

Why do some vampires never seem to get out of game face? For example, I don't think we ever see Luke or the Master have regular face, they seem to be in game face all the time. Along similar lines, when and why is game face voluntary and when is it not? In "Tabula Rasa" it seemed involuntary for Spike, and he did not even know he was in it, or that he was a vamp. A lot of times with Angel, game face seems like an involuntary state brought on by negative stimulus like the way the cut he got in the gladiator ring in "The Ring" seemed to force him into game mode/face (like Oz on the table in the Initiative or smelling Willow on Tara and getting upset). But other times it seems totally voluntary, in fact, most of the time.

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Yep, Angel goes to see her in prison at the beginning of season two, but that's the last time we see her until Wesley breaks her out. I don't really know what the conversation between the two of them was exactly. The fact that she finally turned herself in is certainly a strong suggestion that she's healing herself, but the details are left to fic writers.

I actually think that she could have a serious relationship with Wood, inasmuch as an intimate relationship with someone can help you to restore yourself. I see Buffy as actually less prepared for a relationship than Faith at this point, but that's highly debatable.

I think the whole vampface thing is like the "what's the role of the soul in the Buffyverse" question -- fraught with continuity issues based on both inexperience in the early seasons and the fact that nobody ever sat down and really worked it out. It seems like they just let dramatic impact rule most of the time.

In the first or second ep of S2 Angel goes to visit Faith in prison.

As for the game face question, I'm guessing it's a bit of both. My personal theory is that it takes some degree of control to keep a human face on, so if like there's sudden pain or whatever, they lost the control and game face. Perhaps vamps that stay in human face a lot it becomes like a second nature to be exerting that control.

I actually don't know *grin*

Now see I think all the "cookie dough" should just bond! *grin* i'm evil.

Now see I think all the "cookie dough" should just bond! *grin* i'm evil.

Yeah, they do have a ton of chemistry, don't they.

*nods emphatically*

Ignore me. I'm such a Fuffy 'shipper. *grin*

Can't blame you. Eliza is especially hot. She has chemistry with practically everyone. But Buffy is special for her.

If there were ever a "Slayer Training School" spinoff, it would have to be full of wonderful (if a bit trite) silly all girl's boarding school style torrid slayerette romances. Cuz, there would be no men there, except maybe a few watchers/teachers.

They should've been pairing off the Potentials like crazy.

My thoughts exactly! And I know she got killed off, but seriously how cute would Molly and Dawn have been? *grins*

Hehehe... "Slayer Sororiety Sluts?" sounds like a really BAD porn movie...

On the game face issue, the longer a person is a vampire, the more vampyric traits they develop. It becomes harder and harder to assume truly human form. Also a vampire has greater access to his demon side (strenth, speed, ruthlessness) when he's in game face.

my non-verse answer on the game face? vampire minions, destined to die a quick flamey death are all sadly afflicted by what I once saw referred to as "permanant game face syndrome". On the other hand, you can tell which vampires are going to be important to the story because they'll switch back and forth, as the drama requires. But: in s2 AtS, when we see Angelus being introduced to the Master for the first time by Darla, Angelus makes fun of his face, and Darla responds that the Master's grown "past the curse of human features" and when Angelus hopes out-loud that it won't happen to him, the Master says that he probably won't live that long. That coupled with Kakistos from s3 leads me to believe they're in general going for "the older you get, the more animilistic you get" kind of thing...

I wonder how a soul changes that. Like if Spike and Angel both live another 1000 years without Shanshu-ing or otherwise changing their status, will they grow more animalistic, too? I would think the reverse, being souled and all.

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