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Greek lawyers are threatening to sue the makers of film epic Alexander for showing the ruler as bisexual.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4032245.stm

via [livejournal.com profile] lornelover.

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Date: 2004-11-22 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaydee23.livejournal.com
According to the world history I studied, love between a man and a man in ancient Greek society was considered the most perfect and beautiful kind of love. Especially love between a man and a beautiful young boy. Of course, it never interfered with marriage, but the women understood and accepted it. After all, women had very freedom at that time. Most of the time they weren't allowed to venture past the gardens of their homes.

I'm not implying that all Greek men of the time were homosexual. I'm saying that it wasn't taboo at all, but completely accepted.

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
Exactly, which makes the relative homophobia of modern Greek society seem rather ironic.

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-automatik.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Their objections are ridiculous.

This was my favorite quote: "an explorer in the deepest sense of the word"

BWAHAHAHAHA!

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
I know. And I bet he said it with a 'straight' face. Bwaaaahahaha!

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:23 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-automatik.livejournal.com
Nice avatar, BTW.

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
Which one, this Rupert Everett and Carey Elwes one?

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Date: 2004-11-22 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
I love that movie, almost as much as Maurice.

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Date: 2004-11-22 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaydee23.livejournal.com
Is that from Another Country? Carey still looks good today. Rupert, well, Rupert hasn't held up so well.

Who was in Maurice?

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Date: 2004-11-22 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
Yes, Another Country. Rupert looks fine! At least last I saw him, in Unconditional Love. Of course, you remember that Colin Firth was also in Another Country.

Maurice had James Wilby, Hugh Grant, and Rupert Graves. A far superior film.

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Date: 2004-11-22 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaydee23.livejournal.com
I may have seen a deliberately unflattering photo or two of Rupert recently.

I loved Maurice. It was sooooo sad. I felt so sorry for everyone involved. No one was able to be who they really were or love who they really loved. But the ending was rather hopeful, if I remember it correctly. Wasn't it a loosely fictionalized biography of E.M. Forster's life? Am I imagining that?

Another Country was sad too. It makes you wonder how many lives have been compromised or destroyed by homophobia.

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Date: 2004-11-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
But the ending was rather hopeful, if I remember it correctly. Wasn't it a loosely fictionalized biography of E.M. Forster's life? Am I imagining that?

Yes, the ending was quite hopeful, and the movie therefore stands out very prominently as one of the few queer movies ever to have such a happy ending. In a sea of 1980s and 1990s movies with AIDS, death, AIDS, sickness, death, beating (think Torch Song Trilogy), and more death, we have a gem of a movie that not only has a happy ending but that also has a rather subversive cross-class romance. Especially then, but even now, the upper classes in Britain just didn't have romances with the lower class. It was quite frowned upon, and the upper class person was fairly renouncing their social position by going with a lower-class person, regardless of sexual orientation. Really quite powerful. And yes, I do believe it is semi-autobiographical, and only published after his death, I think.

Another Country was sad too. It makes you wonder how many lives have been compromised or destroyed by homophobia.

So many as to lose count of them all, sadly. The deep shame and self-hatred are almost worse than the hatred of those around the person in question. It's so evil. :-(

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Date: 2004-11-23 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaydee23.livejournal.com
Hollywood, with all it's bluster and bragging, is one of the most homophobic closeted communities in the world.

To Hollywood, the only safe *gay* films are about AIDS, gay bashing, gay murder, or funny gay sidekicks.

They're so afraid to portray the ordinary gay love story, or the ordinary gay life in an extraordinary way.

If more of the closeted gay and lesbian actors would come out, maybe society would come to realize, "Huh? They're just like us, everyday Joes."

But on the other hand, I know that the ordinary gay teenager coming out in Oklahoma or Mississippi, or Texad or whatever, is not going to have the resources and the support that an actor or actress and Hollywood would get.

I felt so sorry for the guys in Another Country. It made my heart ache and my stomache hurt for days.

I don't know why the world just can't let people be.

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Date: 2004-11-23 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
Yeah, I forgot about the 'funny gay sidekick' genre. Geez.

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Date: 2004-11-22 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keever.livejournal.com
I heard about this the other day. This is the stupidest lawsuit I've heard about in ages.

Oh, and icon love! Such a great movie.

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Date: 2004-11-22 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keever.livejournal.com
Maurice is good, but it lacks Colin Firth, so... ;)

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Date: 2004-11-22 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
I think Rupert Grave's perpetually naked body and adorable accent more than make up for the lack of Colin Firth.

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Date: 2004-11-23 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
Um. Guys? You can only sue if it isn't true. Sorry.

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Date: 2004-11-23 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com
That's why they won't go through with it. It's all just political games or something stupid like that. Grrrrr.

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