The L-Word 2.9: Late, Later, Latent

[chicken]

I've discovered another thing I don't like about Jenny. When she says the word "fucking" as an adjective, as in, "you are so fucking pretentious" or whatever, she just sounds so earnest, like a 50-year-old I once knew who was trying to sound "hip" around the young 'uns by inserting the word "fuck" awkwardly into conversation. It's like, "hi, by the way I use expletives, you can tell I am such a damn liberated person, when really, I'm still this weird fucked up idiot."

In more happy news, Bette + Tina = hottt, finally, again. And it's as if they are no longer trying to make Helen three-dimensional at all. Any attempt has been abandoned in favor of making her unequivocally a control freak. Not that I'm complaining, because it gets Bette and Tina back together, but it isn't the most super writing in the whole world.

Mark's storyline is still disturbing how they're trying to make him relatively sympathetic compared to the other stupid straight guys. What's their ultimate purpose here?

Broody Shane is losing a bit of her veneer, but she's still interesting. And the Jenny/Carmen peeing thing made me go, "ew" -- not sure why.

I did love Dana's awkwardness around sex toys -- it was very cute. No Dana, it's not a bisexual thing, it's a lesbians pleasing themselves and each other any damn way they want to. And yeah, you should have practised putting that thing on a few times before the big moment, so you would seem smooth and together. :-) Adorable and funny. And of course Alice is still the funniest, all, "oh, I'm allergic to that one".

Comments

[cadence-k.livejournal.com]

Bette/Tina yay! I really want them to get back together.

Dana and Alice are so cute. Def. my favorite couple on the show.

Helen on the other hand, makes me want to stick hot pokers in my eyes. She had potential to be interesting, but they pretty much killed that.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

It does seem as if Bette and Tina will be getting back together. Their whole arc of affair/break-up/get back together is much more naturalistic and believable than the Lindsey/Melanie on on QAF, and they are hotter. But Dana and Alice are also my favorite couple. They are sexy and funny and always humping, even casually.

[cadence-k.livejournal.com]

They are sexy and funny and always humping, even casually. Hee! And always humping, even casually, is always the mark of a good relationship. :)

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Yes! And it is a mark of adorable friskiness.

[bunnyohare.livejournal.com]

They are sexy and funny and always humping, even casually.


Like us. *smoooooch* *grope* *lick*

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

*hump* *grind* *cavort*

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

I'm downloading the episode and will hopefully see it tonight and come back to comment.

; )

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

No hurry. Thanks for prompting me a few weeks ago to specify more fully in my cut tag the episode name and number, so as to more properly apprise people of potential spoiler content. I felt bad about having sort of spoiled you back then -- I am fully aware of the annoyance of spoilers (after all, half my friends list kept spoiling me for Angel episodes last year, because they had the WB and I had to wait for UPN to air Angel the next day).

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

I don't remember being spoiled by you, but I do know what you mean by that. I had to unfriend the L Word communities I joined because there was a militant anti-LJ cut tag attitude there (as well as a average age=14 vibe going on).

I've found the Angel/Buffy communities and boards I belong to were quite diligent about marking spoilers for the first week or two. It's a very different culture of fandom than, say, the L Word. Maybe the etiquette was just more well-established after 5-7 years.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Yes, the etiquette is better-established, although people were still amazingly careless.

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

although people were still amazingly careless.

When you're up-to-date on the episodes, you sometimes forget what you know vs. what others know. I had this problem with people on my BtVS/AtS boards who read future spoilers. They would write a "non-spoilery" post about current stuff I was familiar with, but you could read between the lines and figure out what was going to happen, because their knowledge of future episodes leaked into their interpretation and conclusions about current stuff.

I'm having this same problem myself with two local friends I'm catching up on the L Word. I know everything up to 2.8, and with one friend, we're back in Season 1, and with the other friend, we're only up to 2.3. Sometimes I just *know* I'd be giving something away if I said something that popped into my head to add to the conversation. Other times, I completely forget that something I want to comment on *hasn't happened yet* from my friend's point of view.

Point is, it can be carelessness, and sometimes, it's just a brain glitch.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

Right, and I think people cannot be faulted for brain glitches, but they should try to be less careless, and I think people know the difference and are more than willing to be forgiving about carelessness.

I find that the people on Whedonesque have gotten much better about Spoiler labels over the last 18 months. When I first joined during the end of S6 Buffy, there were a lot of problems with people not Spoiler-tagging things when they should have, and the international members (who in Britain and Australia would be as much as one or two seasons behind, sometimes) really pushed to reform people's habits.

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

It's a matter of self-governing of a fandom board and a certain level of civility and awareness that most Jossverse fans I've had the good fortune to know are willing to learn. With the L-Word boards, people took a personal affront to being asked to LJ-cut for even *a few days* past the episode, as if it were, not even an incredible burden for them, but downright outrageous to even suggest they do such a thing.

It was that attitude, more than anything, that sent me scampering back to my own Flist for L-Word discussion.

[chicken-cem.livejournal.com]

But WHY do they have that attitude? Using a cut is a very simple task, not a burden! And it is mere courtesy to do so in many situations in which an image is too big, a poll breaks people's f-lists, or a post is simply too long, let alone spoilery.

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

I have *no* idea. It seems pretty darned basic to me, too. But the attitude turned me right off from those communities.

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

No Dana, it's not a bisexual thing, it's a lesbians pleasing themselves and each other any damn way they want to.

Yeah, I don't get the freak-out either. I've had lovers bring up the idea of using them and get all worried I'll be insulted. I'm like "What?" It's all good.

I like Bette and Tina being around each other and even making love but without getting back together. They're still not ready for that. At least, Bette isn't. She's still rather clueless. Helena, I think, is supposed to be Bette, Only Then Some--like Tina moved on from one control freak to an even bigger control freak, and by learning how to stand up to Helena from Hell, she'll learn how to deal with Bette.

BTW, my L Word 2. 9 thoughts are here.